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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 17:20 | Сообщение # 26

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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 17:21 | Сообщение # 27

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В общем, у нас определились два главных переводчика, оба можно сказать профи. Давайте сделаем все таки один общий вариант перевода. Вы договоритесь между собой и сделайте как лучше, надеюсь на вас

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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 17:30 | Сообщение # 28

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Хорошо бы нам завершить перевод через часик-два, тогда они получат его ещё в воскресение днем (у них утро ещё) и успеют ответить нам до завтра. А то понедельник не лучший день для интервью)

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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 17:58 | Сообщение # 29

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freeon_84, А про профессиональные словари поподробнее можно? А то я пользуюсь Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary (который English-English), и значений слов/фраз:
much as
hear for | hear something for (именно с for)
и возможно некоторых других

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 17:59 | Сообщение # 30

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И еще, не надо обижаться или еще чего, мой бы перевод был бы точно на порядок хуже, и не заявляю что у меня все правильно, а только предлагаю вариант, который по-моему (возможно ошибочному мнению) правильнее.

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:13 | Сообщение # 31

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Я не обижаюсь) просто отстаиваю свои знания))))
Относительно профессиональных словарей, я практически не использую бумажных словарей, т.к. обновления (в соответствии с изменениями лексики и значений) выходят не так часто, как хотелось бы, я пользуюсь интернет ресурсами типа multitran.ru , а так же словарями сленга и пр. Слишком быстро меняется словарный состав, многое устаревает, как и некоторые грам. формы.

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:15 | Сообщение # 32

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6) We know that this summer you travelled a lot - по необъяснимым причинам хочется вставить Perfect.

Категорически не согласен! Perfect употребляется в случае если есть результат на лицо. В данном случае результата нет, мы просто констатируем факт, того, что в прошлом действие было совершено. Если так уж хочется, то проще употребит Present Perfect Continious, т.к. он даст понять, что в прошлом они долгое время путешествовали, но в данном случае акцент уже будет на длительности их путешествия.

Результат как раз есть - они вернулись и мы можем с ними сейчас поговорить. Плюс период еще не закончился.

Не знаю где правильно грамматику смотреть, вот, например, выдержка из Мерфи:
We use the present perfect with today/this evening / this year etc. when these periods are not finished at the time of speaking:
I've drunk four cups of coffee today (это же не означает что в далеком прошлом, это именно сегодня)
Have you had a holiday this year (yet)?
и т.д.

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:33 | Сообщение # 33

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Если как вы говорите результат на лицо, желательно его указать в тексте, например, Вы много путешествовали этим летом, и теперь мы сидим в этой студии и обсуждаем UniWar " В таком случае да, мы можем поставит Present Perfect Continious.
А когда мы говорим просто Past simple, то мы сообщаем факт о том, что летом они много путешествовали. Просто констатация факта, которая позже не мешает нам продолжить разговор в настоящем. Они уже отпутешествовали. Это прошло. Сейчас уже другие события. А вот если бы их путешествия имели бы какое-то последствие в настоящем, тогда мы употребили Перфект.
А так, любое действие в прошлом имеет последствия в настоящем (например, He died last summer/ Последствие - его нет с нами сейчас. Извиняюсь, за такой пример. Но он ярко демонстрирует выбор времени)

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:41 | Сообщение # 34

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Если бы было last summer, то да, а так как тут this summer, который еще идет, то не согласен

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:46 | Сообщение # 35

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Если бы было last summer, то да, а так как тут this summer, который еще идет, то не согласен

Но они уже не путешествуют, даже не смотря на то, что лето все ещё продолжается. А так, как вы хотите, получается, что они начали путешествовать в прошлом и до сих пор путешествуют. Но они уже не путешествуют.

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:46 | Сообщение # 36

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все, бойцы, цигель-цигель, каков ваш окнчательный вариант всего текста?

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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:48 | Сообщение # 37

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Hello!
As we agreed i'm sending you the interview project. Waiting from you and Ksavi interesting and meaty answers (you can write them instead of "Your answer"). If yoi don't like something in questions, you can change the question or remove it. If you want you can add new questions. We desire it to be the complete text, as it is a real interview in our cozy studio on the orbit. We hope you'll appertain to it with humour and understanding and as a result there will be an interesting interview.

Good afternoon dear friends!
"RuniWar voice" radio station is on! As usual we broadcast via all satellites simultaneous, so do not bring your radio close to them. There is a great weather and the counter solar wind today in space, and in our studio there are the creators of the genius strategy, that is by right called " The Chess of the third millennium". So let's hear it for fearless creators of the beloved UniWar! Alexandre Kral (much as our famous Russian singer Alexander Sklar) and Xavier Kral! Space suits won't prevent us from wild and great applause.

Alexandre and Xavier make yourself at home with food and drink on the table. Don't worry about full mild-blowing condition as we are already in space!

So, the first question. We know that this summer you travelled a lot. Please tell our listeners where you have been and what have you seen. Was it a good vocation?

Your answer

I see, travelling is always great. Today more and more people like to travel in UniWar world, which the editor made really endless. Please tell us when the idea to create the UniWar appeared. Was it a sized up business solution or a something like a space message? Please, tell us a little bit more about the start of creating the UniWar.

Your answer

Yes, we've seen the picture of ancient UniWar on your Facebook page. You have been working great for the recent years, and the result is great - dozens of thousands fans from all over the world, top places on the prestige game competitions. Do the idolatresses disturb you?

Your answer

I see, there are a lot of different things in space. We have a question from Russian idolatresses. Are you married? Please tell us about yourselves. It is so interesting!

Your answer

Perfect! Let's stop private questions and talk about the game. You know the picture of ancient UniWar is great! We all were in raptures. But the progress doesn't stay at one place, and today even the UniWar HD version doesn't have necessary definition for modern tablet monitors with definition of 1920x1200 and more. Are you going to solve this problem?

Your answer

Ok, We hope these are temporary inconveniences as in case with excess cost of the battery while playing the game on powerful devices.

Your answer

You know, on UniWar we like Jungle and Sramble maps, as they are genius maps for battles by sapiens. Who is this masterpiece creator?

Your answer

Great! These maps are really brilliant! We hope that one day some Moscow street will be named by the creator of these maps. We have great plans. But something must be done with the scoring system in UniWar rating. Nowadays not all players in Top20 got the rating honestly. Yes, there was troublesome time earlier, players experimented a lot, including experiments with rating, bur today there is a new era, in which UniWar is becoming a real cyber sport. So don't you think to reset the whole rating and to charge points for accidental individual games?

Your answer

Yes, we can also advice to make a system in which the rating (points) will be charged after 2 parallel games taking into account the number of rounds (the players play 1 game and then change races and parties and play the second game). We think it will help to solve the problem of unfair games, when one of the parties has a great fundamental advantage. Have you already thought about it?

Your answer

Our interview is running out, but we also want to know what are the UniWar horizons as an Official Russian Headquarter of UniWar? Don't you think that we can cooperate for the benefit of the 2 hemispheres players?

Your answer

So, dear friends! We can see that UniWar has not only a great past but also a marvelous future, that means that we'll find what to do in space. We wish the UniWar creators original success, courage and of course victories in different spheres!
Alexandre, Xavier! Thank you for everything! We are glad that you were here with us, in our studio which lays on the orbit of one of the lost planet.

Dear friends! And now there will be DISCO!

Сообщение отредактировал freeon_84 - Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:49

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:55 | Сообщение # 38

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Подожди немножко, свожу изменение вместе

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:55 | Сообщение # 39

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freeon_84, ок, берем за основу твой текст, выкладываю окончательный вариант, правки будут выделены красным. Подождите минут 10 пока исправлю все, потмо по-быстрому обсудим:

Hello!
As we agreed i'm sending you the interview project. Waiting from you and Xavier interesting and meaty answers (you can write them instead of "Your answer"). If yoi don't like something in questions, you can change the question or remove it. If you want you can add new questions. We desire it to be the complete text, as it is a real interview in our cozy studio on the orbit. We hope you'll appertain to it with humour and understanding and as a result there will be an interesting interview.

Good afternoon dear friends!
"RuniWar voice" radio station is on! As usual we broadcast via all satellites simultaneous, so do not bring your radio close to them. There is a great weather and the counter solar wind today in space, and in our studio there are the creators of the genius strategy, that is by right called " The Chess of the third millennium". So let's hear it for fearless creators of the beloved UniWar! Alexandre Kral (much as our famous Russian singer Alexander Sklar) and Xavier Kral! Space suits won't prevent us from wild and great applause.

Alexandre and Xavier make yourself at home with food and drink on the table. Don't worry about full mild-blowing condition as we are already in space!

So, the first question. We know that this summer you travelled a lot. Please tell our listeners where you have been and what have you seen. Was it a good vocation?

Your answer

I see, travelling is always great. Today more and more people like to travel in UniWar world, which the editor made really endless. Please tell us when the idea to create the UniWar appeared. Was it a sized up business solution or a something like a space message? Please, tell us a little bit more about the start of creating the UniWar.

Your answer

Yes, we've seen the picture of ancient UniWar on your Facebook page. You have been working great for the recent years, and the result is great - dozens of thousands fans from all over the world, top places on the prestige game competitions. Do the idolatresses disturb you?

Your answer

I see, there are a lot of different things in space. We have a question from Russian idolatresses. Are you married? Please tell us about yourselves. It is so interesting!

Your answer

Perfect! Let's stop private questions and talk about the game. You know the picture of ancient UniWar is great! We all were in raptures. But the progress doesn't stay at one place, and today even the UniWar HD version doesn't have necessary definition for modern tablet monitors with definition of 1920x1200 and more. Are you going to solve this problem?

Your answer

Ok, We hope these are temporary inconveniences as in case with excess cost of the battery while playing the game on powerful devices.

Your answer

You know, on UniWar we like Jungle and Sramble maps, as they are genius maps for battles by sapiens. Who is this masterpiece creator?

Your answer

Great! These maps are really brilliant! We hope that one day some Moscow street will be named by the creator of these maps. We have great plans. But something must be done with the scoring system in UniWar rating. Nowadays not all players in Top20 got the rating honestly. Yes, there was troublesome time earlier, players experimented a lot, including experiments with rating, bur today there is a new era, in which UniWar is becoming a real cyber sport. So don't you think to reset the whole rating and to charge points for accidental individual games?

Your answer

Yes, we can also advice to make a system in which the rating (points) will be charged after 2 parallel games taking into account the number of rounds (the players play 1 game and then change races and parties and play the second game). We think it will help to solve the problem of unfair games, when one of the parties has a great fundamental advantage. Have you already thought about it?

Your answer

Our interview is running out, but we also want to know what are the UniWar horizons as an Official Russian Headquarter of UniWar? Don't you think that we can cooperate for the benefit of the 2 hemispheres players?

Your answer

So, dear friends! We can see that UniWar has not only a great past but also a marvelous future, that means that we'll find what to do in space. We wish the UniWar creators original success, courage and of course victories in different spheres!
Alexandre, Xavier! Thank you for everything! We are glad that you were here with us, in our studio which lays on the orbit of one of the lost planet.

Dear friends! And now there will be DISCO!

Мы победим!

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 18:56 | Сообщение # 40

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Подожди немножко, свожу изменение вместе

хорошо, жду твой вариант, это будет компромиссный с Фрионом? Желательно оперативно

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Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:12 | Сообщение # 41

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пока подправь плиз везде имена разрабов:Alexandre Kral и Xavier Kral

Waiting from you and Xavier

Фамилия вроде правильно....

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:14 | Сообщение # 42

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Good afternoon dear friends!
"RuniWar voice" radio station is on! As usual we broadcast via all satellites simultaneous, so do not place your radio close to them. There is a great weather and the counter solar wind in space today, and in our studio there are the creators of the genius strategy, that is called " The Chess of the third millennium" by right. So let's listen to fearless creators of the beloved UniWar! Alexandre Kral (almost like/almost the same as our famous Russian singer Alexander Sklar) and Xavier Kral! Space suits won't prevent us from wild and great applause.

Alexander and Ksavi make yourself at home with food and drink on the table. Don't worry about full mild-blowing condition as we are already in space!

So, the first question. We know that you have travelled a lot this summer. Please tell our listeners where you have been and what have you seen. Was it a good vocation?

Your answer

I see, travelling is always great. Today more and more people like travelling in UniWar world, which was made really endless by the map editor. Please tell us when the idea to create the UniWar appeared. Was it a sized up business solution or a something like a space message? Please, tell us a little bit more about the start of creating the UniWar.

Your answer

Yes, we've seen page a picture of ancient UniWar on your Facebook. You have been working great for the recent years, and the result is great - dozens of thousands fans from all over the world, top places on the prestige game competitions. Do the idolatresses disturb you?

Your answer

I see, there are a lot of different things in space. We have a question from Russian idolatresses. Are you married? Please tell us about yourselves. It is so interesting!

Your answer

Perfect! Let's stop private questions and talk about the game. You know the picture of ancient UniWar is great! We all were in raptures. But the progress doesn't stay at one place, and today even the UniWar HD version doesn't have necessary definition for modern tablet monitors with definition of 1920x1200 and more. Are you going to solve this problem?

Your answer

Ok, We hope these are temporary inconveniences as in case with excess cost of the battery while playing the game on powerful devices.

Your answer

You know, on UniWar we like Jungle and Sramble maps, as they are brilliant maps for battles by sapiens. Who is a creator of these masterpieces?
*
Your answer

Great! These maps are really brilliant! We hope that one day some Moscow street will be named by the creator of these maps. We have great plans. But something must be done with the scoring system in UniWar rating. Nowadays not all players in Top20 got the rating honestly. Yes, there was troublesome time earlier, players experimented a lot, including experiments with rating, but today there is a new era, in which UniWar is becoming a real cyber sport. So don't you think to reset the whole rating and to charge points for individual randomgames?

Your answer

Yes, we can also advise to make a system in which the rating (points) will be charged after 2 parallel games taking into account the number of rounds (the players play 1 game and then change races and parties and play the second game). We think it will help to solve the problem of unfair games, when one of the parties has a great fundamental advantage. Have you already thought about it?

Your answer

Our interview is coming to an end, but we also want to know what are the RUniWar horizons as an Official Russian Headquarter of UniWar? Don't you think that we can cooperate for the benefit of the 2 hemispheres players?

Your answer

So, dear friends! We can see that UniWar has not only a great past but also a marvelous future, that means that we'll find what to do in space. We wish the UniWar creators original success, courage and of course victories in different spheres!
Alexandre, Xavier! Thank you for everything! We are glad that you were here with us, in our studio which lays on the orbit of one of the lost planet.

Dear friends! And now there will be DISCO!

P.S. еще правлю

Сообщение отредактировал skv - Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:46

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:14 | Сообщение # 43

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А как цвета вставить?
все разобрался

Сообщение отредактировал skv - Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:15

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Yes, wcolor=red]e've seen page a picture of ancient UniWar on your Facebook. You have been working great for the recent years, and the result is great - dozens of thousands fans from all over the world, top places on the prestige game competitions. Do the idolatresses disturb you?

Это что!? тут полный каламбур, неправильный порядок слов! Лишний предлог, причем неопределенный!

Это во первых.

А во-вторых, окончательный вариант, что я выложил, был уже с учетом ВАШИХ замечаний, поэтому не было смысла по новой брать старый исходник и исправлять!!!!!

Сообщение отредактировал freeon_84 - Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:29

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:28 | Сообщение # 45

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спасибо всем за труды, беру последний вариант Скв, свои исправления делаю ОРАНЖЕВЫМ и выкладываю минут через 10, потом все вместе быстренько проверяем и отправляем.

Итак:

Hello!
As we agreed i'm sending you the interview project. Waiting from you and Xavier interesting and meaty answers (you can write them instead of "Your answer"). If you don't like something in questions, you can change the question or remove it. If you want you can add new questions. We desire it to be the complete text, as it is a real interview in our cozy studio on the orbit. We hope you'll appertain to it with humour and understanding and as a result there will be an interesting interview.

Good afternoon dear friends!
"RuniWar voice" radio station is on! As usual we broadcast via all satellites simultaneously, so to avoid noise do not place your radio close to them. There is a great weather and the favorable solar wind in space today, and in our studio there are the creators of the genius strategy, that is called " The Chess of the third millennium" by right. So let's listen to fearless creators of the beloved UniWar! Alexandre Kral (almost like our famous Russian singer Alexander Sklar) and Xavier Kral! Space suits won't prevent us from wild and great applause.

Alexander and Xavier make yourself at home with food and drink on the table. Do not be afraid to fly far away as we are already in space!

So, the first question. We know that you have travelled a lot this summer. Please tell our listeners where you have been and what have you seen. Was it a good vocation?

Your answer

I see, travelling is always great. Today more and more people like travelling in UniWar universe, which was made really endless by the map editor. Please tell us when the idea to create the UniWar appeared. Was it a sized up business solution or a something like a space message? Please, tell us a little bit more about the start of creating the UniWar.

Your answer

Yes, we've seen the picture of ancient UniWar on your Facebook page. You have been working great for the recent years, and the result is great - dozens of thousands fans from all over the world, top places on the prestige game competitions. Do the idolatresses disturb you?

Your answer

I see, there are a lot of different things in space. We have a question from Russian idolatresses. Are you married? Please tell us about yourselves. It is so interesting!

Your answer

Perfect! Let's stop private questions and talk about the game. You know the picture of ancient UniWar is great! We all were in raptures. But the progress doesn't stay at one place, and today even the UniWar HD version doesn't have necessary definition for modern tablet monitors with definition of 1920x1200 and more. Are you going to solve this problem?

Your answer

Ok, We hope these are temporary inconveniences as in case with excess cost of the battery while playing the game on powerful devices.
You know, on UniWar we like Jungle and Sramble maps, as they are brilliant maps for battles by sapiens. Who is a creator of these masterpieces?

Your answer

Great! These maps are really brilliant! We hope that one day the main Moscow street will be renamed by the creator of these maps. We have great plans. But something must be done with the scoring system in UniWar rating. Nowadays not all players in Top20 got the rating honestly. Yes, there was troublesome time earlier, players experimented a lot, including experiments with rating, but today there is a new era, in which UniWar is becoming a real cyber sport. So don't you think to reset the whole rating and to charge points for individual randomgames?

Your answer

Yes, we can also advise to make a system in which the rating (points) will be charged after 2 parallel games taking into account the number of rounds (the players play 1 game and then change races and parties and play the second game). We think it will help to solve the problem of unfair games, when one of the parties has a great fundamental advantage. Have you already thought about it?

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Our interview is coming to an end, but we also want to know what are the RUniWar horizons as an Official Russian Headquarter of UniWar? Don't you think that we can cooperate for the benefit of the 2 hemispheres players?

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So, dear friends! We can see that UniWar has not only a great past but also a marvelous future, that means that we'll find what to do in space. We wish the UniWar creators original success, courage and of course victories in all the battles!
Alexandre, Xavier! Thank you for everything! We are glad that you were here with us, in our studio which lays on the orbit of one of the lost planet.

Dear friends! And now there will be DISCO!

Мы победим!

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:29 | Сообщение # 46

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Вроде все. Синий цвет - то с чем не согласен, но спорить не буду если останется не классический порядок слов или еще что-то в этом духе (мало ли что американцы могли придумать)
Красный - все еще не согласен
С чем не согласен это
1) hear for - дайте ссылку где hear может употребляться с for в данном значении
2) interview running out - ну не употребляется оно так
3) Runiwar а не Uniwar в одном месте
4) much as - не нашел значения на oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com, может и можно, может можно в сша
5) the editor в первом случае - ну не употреблялся редактор до этого, какой редактор совсем не понятно для неподготовленного слушателя, поэтому если уж порядок слов оставлять то добавить слово map
6) accidental (или что-то в этом духе) game - у нас они random game
7) these masterpieces - речь о двух картах а не одной

Зеленый - со временем в одном предложении не согласен, привел правило из книги по грамматике.
еще не знаю (ну просто не знаю) можно ли говорить original success, для меня странно звучит, как заменить без понятия
ну и все равно не все вычитал

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:32 | Сообщение # 47

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Да, и еще я потерял где-то шапку которая потом дополнительно переводилась

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:34 | Сообщение # 48

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Хотя вот почитал про like travelling, наверное я не прав с этим travelling, там travelling в предложении перед этим употреблялось, так что наверное лучше как было изначально like to travel

Дата: Воскресенье, 19.08.2012, 19:38 | Сообщение # 49

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В общем, больше не буду править, исправлять, делайте как хотите. Я в своем варианте уверен больше чем на 100 %. С тем, что вы категорически не согласны или не нашли объяснения, значения, спорить не намерен. Со значением большинства слов в данном контексте вы не согласны, возможно у вас не такой опыт как у меня., поэтому убеждать в обратном не вижу смысла.

TALONE, если ты в друзьях с разработчиками, скинул бы окончательный Ваш вариант и вариант с этого сообщения ну и пусть оценят какой правильный...